• pe1uca@lemmy.pe1uca.dev
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      3 months ago

      Well, the issue will be developers of other apps would force us to re-google since any build of the app would be useless unless installed from the play store…

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          Are they? Other comments in different PRs seem to indicate they have no intention of trying to subvert play integrity. Is there something more recent than this that indicates they’re trying?

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          For every single app where the developer tries this?

          Yeah right. That’s unsustainable.

          They’ll also just increase ways for the integrity to verify it hasn’t been patched. This announcement already says they’re checking the app’s binary for tampering.

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      And…move to iOS? The even more locked down platform? What solution are you proposing here?

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          You can degoogle on Android you know.

          only if your device is supported. Most aren’t…

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            LineageOS with microg works for most devices

            Issue is that it is no secure. People should be buying pixels flashing calyx or graphene going forward for their next upgrade IMHO

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              Issue is that it is no secure.

              Explain. I’m tired of hearing this boogeyman, tell me exactly how Lineage is “not secure” but Graphene is?

              Then maybe give me some examples of cases where that difference has actually been a problem.

              Because it feels like a lot of these “unsecure” things people hand-wring over are really just user freedoms they may use to hurt themselves, not actual vulnerabilities that can’t be avoided with common sense.

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                Primarily because bootloader is not lockable, plus delayed updates.

                Also, they do some weird thing with how it is developed. I think it is always in some weird “developer” state but I don’t remember details.

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          You can degoogle on Android you know.

          Not if the app doesn’t work outside of Google’s app store, you can’t…?

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            Apps that don’t work are usually the worst privacy offenders lol

            People will need to make a choice, corpos won’t make it easier for the slave

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              I mean, you can be as snotty about this as you like, but it doesn’t change the fact this “choice” is basically between participate in the same digital world as most people do with the most popular, most supported, and highest value apps, vs only what you can use in F Droid or something?

              You’re calling them slaves but can you give them anything more appealing outside the walled garden than “privacy”? It’s not like everything on the play store has an F-Droid corollary. You’re basically telling them to dramatically reduce their own use case. Does that make them a slave?